{"id":1014,"date":"2023-10-23T16:31:19","date_gmt":"2023-10-23T14:31:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/?p=1014"},"modified":"2026-05-17T16:30:19","modified_gmt":"2026-05-17T14:30:19","slug":"marie-clemence-le-vrai-prix-dune-pma-en-espagne","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/2023\/10\/23\/marie-clemence-le-vrai-prix-dune-pma-en-espagne\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00c7a co\u00fbte combien de faire une PMA en Espagne ?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2>\n\t\tUn b\u00e9b\u00e9 \u00e0 tout prix ?\n\t<\/h2>\n<h2>\n\t\t\u00c9pisode #72\n\t<\/h2>\n\t<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.acast.com\/6569d320c27dae001249cf18\/6569d326ff391100122fc13e\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"100%\" height=\"190px\"><\/iframe>\n\t<p>Depuis la loi de bio\u00e9thique de 2021, la procr\u00e9ation m\u00e9dicalement assist\u00e9e est ouverte en France aux couples de femmes et aux femmes seules. Sur le papier, c\u2019est une avanc\u00e9e immense. Dans la vraie vie, \u00e9videmment, c\u2019est plus compliqu\u00e9.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/marieclemenceb\/?hl=fr\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Marie-Cl\u00e9mence Bordet-Nicaise <\/a>est en couple avec une femme et a d\u00fb se tourner vers l\u2019Espagne, \u00e0 Saint-S\u00e9bastien, pour mener son parcours de PMA. D\u00e9lais d\u2019attente, rendez-vous, examens, traitements, tentatives qui \u00e9chouent, corps qui ne r\u00e9pond pas comme pr\u00e9vu : tr\u00e8s vite, le d\u00e9sir d\u2019enfant rencontre une r\u00e9alit\u00e9 beaucoup moins romantique, celle des factures qui s\u2019accumulent.<br \/>\nCar dans un parcours de PMA, chaque \u00e9tape peut co\u00fbter. Et quand il faut recommencer, l\u2019addition recommence aussi.<br \/>\nMarie-Cl\u00e9mence raconte ce chemin avec une grande douceur et beaucoup de pr\u00e9cision : le couple, le corps, l\u2019espoir, les d\u00e9ceptions, les choix m\u00e9dicaux, les voyages, mais aussi ce sujet dont on parle trop peu : le prix tr\u00e8s concret d\u2019un projet parental.<\/p>\n<p>N&rsquo;oubliez pas de <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.tipeee.com\/thune-le-podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">soutenir Thune sur Tipeee<\/a> pour que l&rsquo;aventure continue en toute ind\u00e9pendance<\/p>\n\n<h2>\n\t\tPlus d&rsquo;\u00e9pisodes\n\t<\/h2>\n\t<meta itemscope=\"\" itemprop=\"mainEntityOfPage\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/WebPage\" itemid=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/2023\/10\/20\/marie-la-rue-le-rsa-mais-ca-va\/\" content=\"Marie : la rue, le RSA, mais\u2026 \u00e7a va.\"><meta itemprop=\"datePublished\" content=\"2023-10-20\"><meta itemprop=\"dateModified\" content=\"2023-10-20\"><meta itemprop=\"name\" content=\"THUNE PODCAST\"><meta itemprop=\"url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/author\/admin4827\/\"><meta itemprop=\"name\" content=\"admin4827\"><meta itemprop=\"url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/THUNE-PODCAST-EPISODE-26.jpg\"><meta itemprop=\"width\" content=\"800\"><meta itemprop=\"height\" content=\"800\"><meta itemprop=\"interactionType\" content=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CommentAction\"><meta itemprop=\"userInteractionCount\" content=\"0\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/2023\/10\/20\/marie-la-rue-le-rsa-mais-ca-va\/\" title=\"Marie : la rue, le RSA, mais\u2026 \u00e7a va.\"><\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/bb-plugin\/cache\/THUNE-PODCAST-EPISODE-26-768x768-square-b7311bb476818754aadf69a2322afa9a-.jpg\" alt=\"THUNE PODCAST EPISODE 26\" itemprop=\"image\" data-no-lazy=\"1\" title=\"THUNE PODCAST EPISODE 26\" onerror=\"this.style.display='none'\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h3 itemprop=\"headline\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tMarie : la rue, le RSA, mais\u2026 \u00e7a va.\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/h3>\n    \u00c9pisode #26\n<p>Marie &nbsp;eu du fric, n\u2019a plus eu de fric. A eu des enfants, a connu la rue. Aujourd\u2019hui elle a la cinquantaine. On s\u2019est pos\u00e9es \u00e0 une terrasse de bistrot, elle a accept\u00e9 de parler de thune, librement. Elle est \u00ab&nbsp;colportrice&nbsp;\u00bb de journaux, touche le RSA\u2026<\/p>\n    \t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/category\/budget\/\">budget<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t \/ \n\t\t    \t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/category\/deche\/\">d\u00e8che<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t \/ \n\t\t    \t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/category\/feel-good\/\">feel good<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t \/ \n\t\t    \t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/category\/femmes\/\">femmes&nbsp;<\/a>\n\t<meta itemscope=\"\" itemprop=\"mainEntityOfPage\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/WebPage\" itemid=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/2023\/10\/20\/salome-lautonomie-a-tout-prix\/\" content=\"Salom\u00e9 : l\u2019autonomie\u2026 \u00e0 tout prix !\"><meta itemprop=\"datePublished\" content=\"2023-10-20\"><meta itemprop=\"dateModified\" content=\"2023-10-20\"><meta itemprop=\"name\" content=\"THUNE PODCAST\"><meta itemprop=\"url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/author\/admin4827\/\"><meta itemprop=\"name\" content=\"admin4827\"><meta itemprop=\"url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/THUNE-PODCAST-EPISODE-31.jpg\"><meta itemprop=\"width\" content=\"800\"><meta itemprop=\"height\" content=\"800\"><meta itemprop=\"interactionType\" content=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CommentAction\"><meta itemprop=\"userInteractionCount\" content=\"0\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/2023\/10\/20\/salome-lautonomie-a-tout-prix\/\" title=\"Salom\u00e9 : l\u2019autonomie\u2026 \u00e0 tout prix !\"><\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/bb-plugin\/cache\/THUNE-PODCAST-EPISODE-31-768x768-square-d43f383418ed2ac95dfd19189bb7cec1-.jpg\" alt=\"THUNE PODCAST EPISODE 31\" itemprop=\"image\" data-no-lazy=\"1\" title=\"THUNE PODCAST EPISODE 31\" onerror=\"this.style.display='none'\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h3 itemprop=\"headline\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tSalom\u00e9 : l\u2019autonomie\u2026 \u00e0 tout prix !\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/h3>\n    \u00c9pisode #31\n<p>Salom\u00e9 n&rsquo;aime pas d\u00e9pendre. Ni d&rsquo;un homme, ni d&rsquo;une banque. Alors, elle g\u00e8re, compte, s\u2019agace des injonctions \u00e0 consommer, met \u00e0 gauche. Et g\u00e8re sa vie de fa\u00e7on \u00e0 la fois singuli\u00e8re et ultra-ma\u00eetris\u00e9e\u2026<\/p>\n    \t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/category\/budget\/\">budget<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t \/ \n\t\t    \t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/category\/femmes\/\">femmes&nbsp;<\/a>\n\t<meta itemscope=\"\" itemprop=\"mainEntityOfPage\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/WebPage\" itemid=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/2023\/10\/20\/nathalie-surendettee-suite-a-un-controle-fiscal\/\" content=\"Nathalie, surendett\u00e9e suite \u00e0 un contr\u00f4le fiscal\"><meta itemprop=\"datePublished\" content=\"2023-10-20\"><meta itemprop=\"dateModified\" content=\"2023-10-20\"><meta itemprop=\"name\" content=\"THUNE PODCAST\"><meta itemprop=\"url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/author\/admin4827\/\"><meta itemprop=\"name\" content=\"admin4827\"><meta itemprop=\"url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/THUNE-PODCAST-EPISODE-21.jpg\"><meta itemprop=\"width\" content=\"800\"><meta itemprop=\"height\" content=\"800\"><meta itemprop=\"interactionType\" content=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CommentAction\"><meta itemprop=\"userInteractionCount\" content=\"0\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/2023\/10\/20\/nathalie-surendettee-suite-a-un-controle-fiscal\/\" title=\"Nathalie, surendett\u00e9e suite \u00e0 un contr\u00f4le fiscal\"><\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/bb-plugin\/cache\/THUNE-PODCAST-EPISODE-21-768x768-square-fb280ae4d020a6f1692a62ca3cdf27a8-.jpg\" alt=\"THUNE PODCAST EPISODE 21\" itemprop=\"image\" data-no-lazy=\"1\" title=\"THUNE PODCAST EPISODE 21\" onerror=\"this.style.display='none'\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h3 itemprop=\"headline\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tNathalie, surendett\u00e9e suite \u00e0 un contr\u00f4le fiscal\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/h3>\n    \u00c9pisode #21\n<p>Vous avez peut-\u00eatre vu sur les r\u00e9seaux sociaux cette dame d\u2019un certain &nbsp;\u00e2ge, tr\u00e8s chic et un peu snob, qui organise des &nbsp;diners, chez elle, dans &nbsp;sa chambre de bonne de 6 m2. Cette dame, c&rsquo;est Nathalie George et son &nbsp;histoire est celle d&rsquo;une mondaine, qui aime recevoir, n&rsquo;aime pas &nbsp;compter\u2026<\/p>\n    \t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/category\/budget\/\">budget<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t \/ \n\t\t    \t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/category\/deche\/\">d\u00e8che<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t \/ \n\t\t    \t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thunepodcast.fr\/index.php\/category\/femmes\/\">femmes&nbsp;<\/a>\n\t\t<!-- .pp-content-posts -->\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00c9pisode # Plus d&rsquo;\u00e9pisodes Marie : la rue, le RSA, mais\u2026 \u00e7a va. \u00c9pisode #26 Marie &nbsp;eu du fric, n\u2019a plus eu de fric. A eu des enfants, a connu la rue. Aujourd\u2019hui elle a la cinquantaine. On s\u2019est pos\u00e9es \u00e0 une terrasse de bistrot, elle a accept\u00e9 de parler de thune, librement. 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